Not long ago I bought a USB Drobo to replace the multiple hard drives that I had collected over the years.
I started by purchasing four 500GB drives, which I am already replacing with 750GB drives. Due to the way that Drobo works, you get redundant storage but less than you’d get if you added the drives up. For example, if you have 4×500GB drives you get about 3×500GB worth of storage, and Drobo protects your data so that if any one of those drives dies, you can replace it without losing your data.
I had heard about Drobo on Twitter and on Mac Break Weekly and had watched the demo, so I knew basically how it worked before it arrived.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this

I dutifully checked the Help file before contacting support, and saw that the only way to change it was to reformat the entire {bleepity-bleep} thing.
I sent this email to Drobo tech support:
So I replaced my 500GB drives with 750GB drives, and now Drobo is telling me that I have to have another Volume (see attached image), and that the only way to get around this is to reformat the entire thing?!?! If I chose HFS+ why would you limit me to 2GB by default?! I really don’t want 2 volumes, but I don’t have enough space elsewhere to move all the data off the Drobo and then reformat and move it back on. This is pretty disappointing. Had I known about this earlier I would have set it up differently, but EVERYTHING I saw said “Hey, just add more hard drives later, it’s just that simple!” not “Just add more hard drives and eventually end up with multiple volumes” :-/ I know it’s my fault for trusting marketing-speak, but you could throw in a line there about the 2TB limit, if not in the “commercial”, then at least when I start putting drives in for the first time. Had a dialog come up and explained this limit to me (similar to the Help file), I would have chosen 4TB without hesitation. Anyway, that’s my feedback, for what it’s worth. TjL
And received this reply.
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:05:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Drobo Technical SupportTo: “luomat@gmail.com” Subject: Drobo Case # 10909 [ ref:00D56kRy.500556Q8D:ref ] Good Morning, Timothy, I apologize that when you were given the option to size your volume to 2 TB, 4 TB, 8 TB or 16 TB, in the Drobo Dashboard, you chose to size it to 2 TB. Next time you run into something you do not understand in our software, please do not hesitate to give us a call and we will walk you through it. Have a wonderful day, Wanda ref:00D56kRy.500556Q8D:ref
to which I wrote back
{Expletive deleted} you and your snotty passive aggressive attitude. You’re marketing something that you claim is so simple you don’t need to worry about a thing. Oh, except for this one setting that you’ll probably run into pretty soon if you’re dealing with such large quantities of data. I’ve already had people ask me what I think about my Drobo. I’ll be sure to tell them what I think about the support they offer. I’ve got 4 extra hard drives that I was thinking “Hrm, return them or buy another Drobo.” Guess I’ll return them. TjL
I gather from Wanda’s snide comment that I chose a 2TB setting. I have no recollection of that being asked, but of course with 4×500gb worth of data, I would have thought “Oh, well, it’s less than 2TB, so I’ll choose that.”
There’s an old saying that goes something like “try to make something fool-proof and they’ll start making better fools.”
I wish I could see the initial start sequence again, perhaps I didn’t read it carefully enough, but I would hope that it says something like “Confirm 2TB partitions? If you add larger drives that exceed a total of 2TB, Drobo will automatically make a second partition.”
And I would have said “Oh, well, in that case, I’ll go for the larger size.”
(Technical aside: the strangest thing is that the default format is HFS+ which is a Mac format, but the 2TB limit is there for Windows compatibility [if I am remembering the Help file information correctly] which has trouble dealing with discs larger than 2TB. Ok, but then why is HFS+ the default format?)
The minor aggravation of the 2TB partitions is minor. The response from Drobo tech support is not.
Maybe it’s just because I’ve known so many people in tech support, but each line of it reads “You did this yourself, you stupid moron.”
And that’s perfectly understandable to think but it is not acceptable to say when you are being paid to be the public-facing side of a company that I just shelled out $350+ to. I don’t expect you to kiss my ass because I bought your product, all I expect is something like this:
When you initially setup the Drobo, you *were* asked how large you wanted the partitions to be. I’m sorry if it wasn’t clear what this setting meant.
Boom, that’s all you need to say. Simple, clear, precise.
You could even throw me a bone and add “I’ll pass along your comments” even if you don’t do anything but roll your eyes and file my email under “Clueless Morons Who Are Unfortunately Our Customers.”
Do I allow that “Wanda” might have been having a bad day? Sure. Tech support is often a godawful job. But when you’re being paid a salary to respond to people’s tech support emails, you scream in the breakroom, and smile in the email.
Should I have used profanity in my response? No, that was a dickish move on my part, but I did it, and I admit to it. But if you want to know how to turn a minor irritation with your company’s product into full-blown anger at your company, here’s a good recipe.
(BTW I was quite serious that I was considering purchasing a 2nd Drobo, because I’ve got 4×500GB drives already. But after this I will not. No, I don’t mean `not ever’, I mean anytime soon.)
on 28 Aug 2008 at 11:31 am # dave
Why put the limitation in there at all if it doesn’t need to be there? Just have it default to max… that is a strange setting, IMHO.
on 28 Aug 2008 at 11:42 am # TJ
That’s a good question.
The Help file mentions something about there being trade-offs in the “boot time” of the Drobo.
Personally, mine lives on a UPS and will probably never be turned off at all, versus a 2TB limit I will have to live with every day.
on 03 Oct 2008 at 1:28 pm # Stephan
Come on, TJ. It’s right there in the manual. I can’t believe how “{expletive deleted}” lazy you were not to even read the damn manual and then have the Gaul to blame it on the Drobo not being user friendly enough.
The upside is, that with a 2TB partition, the drobo only takes two minutes to boot up, not four (as would be the case with a 4TB partition. That’s also in the manual. I’m hoping I’m blowing your mind here.
on 09 Oct 2008 at 12:32 am # TJ
@Stephan - Sure, it’s in the manual.
How many of us really read the manuals?
Yes, when you setup a Drobo, it does ask, but it doesn’t make it clear that this can’t be changed.
It wouldn’t take much to say “Look, this can’t be changed, there are tradeoffs, for more information, checkout the manual. “
What had I done? I had watched the Drobo intro video.
Watch the Drobo intro video and they’ll say words to the effect of “Hey! All you have to do is shove hard drives in there, voilĂ ! It’ll just show up as a giant hard drive!”
Or two.
Depending.
Or more.
Depending.
Better to throw up a clear warning “Hey! This can’t be changed!” than say “Hey, it’s one big drive! Except when it isn’t!”
That’s all I’m sayin’
on 15 Nov 2008 at 4:22 am # Luis
It is disappointing to hear of your negative tech experience. I would have immediately called Drobo and asked for a manager and had the person written up, sent to anger management or released. Unfortunetly, many cases like this probably never reach the people that can make a difference, and the result is loss of a customer, bad reputation, and an employee that continues to get a paycheck even though he/she doesn’t deserve it.
Here is why the settings are there for your choosing(hope this helps):
The limitation settings (2, 4, 8, 16) is set to give you the option of speed vs versatility (i.e. expanding to max volume size).
If you choose 2TB, you get faster data transfer speeds and startup times but are limited to 2TB volumes. When total drive capacity exceeds 2TB, the system will make the additional space into another 2TB volume.
If you choose 16TB, you get one big 16TB volume in trade for some speed and delayed start up.
A good trade off is 8TB, and that is what I tell most of my clients to choose. By the time most people reach the 8TB size limit, they are ready for an upgrade (maybe a new drobo that does gigabyte wi-fi and osmosis transfer capability).
I think you have something there. Drobo is designed to be easy to use for any user. It would seem to me that this question would through off any user who doesn’t have some significant knowledge of data storage techniques. I think the solution here is a question that ANY user would understand. For example:
Please choose the following usage for your Drobo: 1. I am using the drobo because I have lots of data, and tend to run of out disk space very quickly. (16TB) 2. I am using the drobo just for backing up data. I probably won’t fill it up very quickly. (8TB) 3. I make lots of media (I.E.: movies, games, music, large graphics/pictures) but want to work directly from the Drobo and need the speed more than the space. (2TB)
What do you think?